Mardukites - Crossing to the Abyss, Self-Knowledge vs. Self-Deception

[nabu]

posted from the Mardukite NecroGate.

Whenever YOU affirm: “I AM…” and add “something” – this is a form of “enslavement to consciousness.” The true “I of Self” is not restricted to any conception of “persona-personality-programming” (P3) that YOU have “experienced” in the surface reality or world. QED: the true “I of YOU” has never been “thirsty,” never been “angry”. Do you want to prove it? The next time YOU have this “experience,” observe it from SELF. The very idea that you can do this proves it is not “real.” If it was from the “I of YOU” it would not be a “thing” to be “observed” by YOU at all. It would be YOU! If you can “artificially” create experiences in your mind, what does that tell YOU??? SELF is to be found at the core of your being. It is YOU who is doing the “discovering” or “finding.” It is the SELF in-and-of SELF. YOU are “HERE in kNOW” and when YOU remove all “things” you find SELF. It’s as simple as that. There is nothing to be “out there” looking for at all. Only when you can see your-SELF from a point of “self-honesty” can YOU see YOU, or anything else for that matter, for what is “real.”

This post was officially adapted from the Mardukite Greenleaf Knowledge Lecture Series form 2008 by Nabu, Joshua Free and also appears in an introductory chapter to the "Necronomicon - Anunnaki Bible" available at NecroGate.com.

[krys]

since i was a child i have always had the outlook of "I AM....but this body feels"

[nabu]

Senses were installed along with the systems of planets and "veils" in order to make good deceptive system. If you didn't "feel" in your body then you might not accept the programming of the system. There is a reason the old english uses the words "experience" and "suffering" interchangeably. "Suffer the little children to come to me..." -let them feel me. let them feel my "realness"...

[lil gremlin]

the Necronomicon Revelations book really made all of this make even more practical sense to me. thank you.

[nabu]

indeed. you're welcome!

[Baylin]

I cannot relate to you how strange it is to hear someone actually understand the kNow and the I in self, and than relate to it as a veil.

Wow!

Its taken me a lifetime to come to these understandings and now it is being supposed as some sort of global deception. And to speak of what I call 'consciousness' as the abyss behind the veil, well that just speaks to so much of what I acknowledge as the great mystery.

These revelations may seem quite obvious to many of you now, and I understand we are all working with varying degrees of intelligence, but I assure you that this is all pointing toward credible answers, at least worthy of investigation, to mysteries that have challenged the greatest thinkers of the history of the planet.

How many others have come to the edge of this abyss in the past? Where are their written experiences? Were they heard at all and summarily dismissed as per the norm? Or is the first time in the history of man that we have been able to get this close? Are you treading on virgin ground here? Have we only now reached a point in our evolutionary stage that we can suddenly understand these things?

It is no secret that mankind has been going through an exponential advancement in understanding of physics and science. Or that those fields have held us back from understanding the other. Much enlightenment has been taking place around the globe.

Has this surge launched us into a new stage ready for revelations and understanding never before experienced?

I, for one, will be stepping lightly upon this foreboding ground, with my middle eye focused intently on the consciousness all around me. My views are very pan en theistic, at this point, and I see some sort of divine consciousness responsible for it all, which we are all a part of, and to come to the edge of this precipice with you and be able to look deeper into that consciousness, beyond the veil, will be a gift that no man could deny.

I am not so sure I want to see what stands in the way. I am a family man and do not walk this life alone, but I surely have not come this far to turn back yet.

[nabu]

With eyes so widely open and a mind so clearly directed self-honestly, I cannot help but to believe that you will find what you seek on this "foreboding ground" - something that you have always known to exist but clearly the semantics, terminology and true understanding of it is what has escaped many in the past who have too easily been clouded by one deception or another. Many of the questions you ask in your post, Baylin, are important - but they are one's that I cannot, or rather - will not - at this time, answer for you - not out of ignorance or guardedness - but because I do believe that if you apply yourself to the path before you for even a little while, the answers will begin to unfold quite quickly as to whether or not what we are doing is valid and real and as monumental as you suggest or not - and then, more important than this (because I already know) - you will have to decide whether or not you are ready to accept the answers found.

[Baylin]

(09-11-2010 04:44 AM)nabu Wrote:  With eyes so widely open and a mind so clearly directed self-honestly, I cannot help but to believe that you will find what you seek on this "foreboding ground" - something that you have always known to exist but clearly the semantics, terminology and true understanding of it is what has escaped many in the past who have too easily been clouded by one deception or another. Many of the questions you ask in your post, Baylin, are important - but they are one's that I cannot, or rather - will not - at this time, answer for you - not out of ignorance or guardedness - but because I do believe that if you apply yourself to the path before you for even a little while, the answers will begin to unfold quite quickly as to whether or not what we are doing is valid and real and as monumental as you suggest or not - and then, more important than this (because I already know) - you will have to decide whether or not you are ready to accept the answers found.

Well then, you already know that I , oh man, I can't believe what I was about to type. Drop it, can't go there!

I don't know Joshua. I am already 52 years old. I do not have the ability to retain vast amounts of data the way that people like yourself can. I manage to use my mind very well but it has taken me through a long journey to get even near to where you have gone so quickly. I don't have enough time to be this stupid and discover what I hope to discover in this lifetime.

However I know what you mean about having to be my decisions and path. For me the path has come full circle. A few years ago I discovered Sitchin's work, and to be honest, as I read about the Annunaki and everything seemed to be making sense I felt as though I was hanging on the edge of a cliff. I felt ill all the time like something terrible was coming to fruition. I knew something was wrong. I was spooked.

And I think it was the commonality of all the genesis stories that made me start to feel 'this is all just more of the same old men trying to out-write other men' routine. I started looking down different pathways convincing myself that it was not beneficial to stay there, but I see now that was just an excuse to run away from what had spooked me.

I'm still spooked, but I am not going to keep going down side paths that just mean a longer way back to this one again. I've already wasted the last few years to get here. I need to find out what is here. This is my path. It is the one I choose.

Now, I realize that you are aware that I have other considerations to make and I think that scares me more than what reality has to reveal. Right now I would confidently state that there is a line I will not cross. But without knowing the dynamics around revelation, I also know that I cannot really say that until I get to those lines.

I am not a coward but I have spent a lifetime clinging violently to my integrity and holding it without price before me. This is what I contribute to the consciousness and my humanity. It is not for an illusional I, but for the universe that makes me what I am, as that is my priority, and not the flesh I leave to the ground. That is my strength and my weapon when I stand before the enemy, because it does not face a simple man filled with ego and delusion; it faces the consciousness of the universe.

Okay, I'm trippin again, time to breathe! Sometimes I forget the body's importance to this experience.

[nabu]

(09-11-2010 11:11 AM)Baylin Wrote:  I am already 52 years old. I do not have the ability to retain vast amounts of data the way that people like yourself can.

We're not school - there are no vocabulary words to memorize or strange bizarre formulas that if you don't retain you'll end up lost in some spatial vacuum (I'm not Kenneth Grant and this isn't AA or OTO, lmao). Entities like myself that occupy a younger form outwardly can have a certain appeal to certain people that are part of my little mission for them. Folks like yourself who have already had a chance to live half a lifetime out in abroad can always be an asset for offering their own perspectives, whether imbued with wisdom or not. The fact that you find difficulty structuring a whole mess of data might actually be an asset here where before it actually contributes in holding many back from seeing things as they really are, and not just as they think they are based on the schemas in the mind.

Quote:I manage to use my mind very well but it has taken me through a long journey to get even near to where you have gone so quickly.

Stop that. No pedestals. I just got the "upgrades" is all Seriously, it isn't for myself - it is for folks like you to take advantage of.

Quote:I don't have enough time to be this stupid and discover what I hope to discover in this lifetime.

And so I gave up the chance of ever having a normal life thousands of years ago to bring this to you all now. It isn't my fault that so many trees are cut down that the printers charge what they do for our small runs of books - or that the internet isn't free - or shipping or anything - I am not here for that, I am not here fore profit, and I am not here for any worldly glamour to behold (as I have already had the privilege of chasing those avenues once upon a time). Sometimes time in this system is really messed up, but here's the thing - I gave humanity all the time I had for thousands of years and now in this form, when I am ready and able to relay what should have been said thousands of years ago still, all I ask is that it not make the situation worse, meaning - I have not been graced with a position of "giving it away" because it all costs - so folks know they cant just up and leave and run away out of the system - where is there to go right now? But you can offer up or sacrifice or "donate" a days work load or a month without daily lattes or something similar to acquire the book form in which we have had to relay the work today. Luckily my priests aren't chiseling on stone tablets anymore and we aren't asking for bulls, goats and first borns. Barter from your efforts what others have done with theirs and we can all actually find that utopian happiness once again.

Quote:I knew something was wrong. I was spooked.

Something is wrong. Something has been wrong for a long time. But its not the focus. If you are spooked, if you are scared, then you aren't ready for it. So just be readied. Be in the state of preparedness without fear and judgment. Its easier than you think. Look - the sky is always falling - and you should have seen this so many times before. It was falling in 1966, 1977, 1984, 2000 and it will be falling again in 2012. Don't worry about it.

Quote:I'm still spooked, but I am not going to keep going down side paths that just mean a longer way back to this one again. I've already wasted the last few years to get here. I need to find out what is here. This is my path. It is the one I choose.

Thats a sign of wisdom. Chasing the other avenues might delight the mind and senses but clearly you know where they lead. They are dead ends.

Quote:I am not a coward but I have spent a lifetime clinging violently to my integrity and holding it without price before me.

So... walk the path with integrity. ...I dont see the conflict.

Quote:Okay, I'm trippin again, time to breathe! Sometimes I forget the body's importance to this experience.

Yes... please breathe. Its important.

[Baylin]

You do see the conflict. You are obviously trying to get me to come to terms with it. I am sure you have loved ones that you fear for. So in sight of your obvious evasion, I have to ask myself ' WTF.'

I will do whatever I can to make sure your efforts are not in vain. The cost of the books is not an issue. If there is some way that I can join you and take part in some way from here I will. It sounds as though your group is small which is a good thing. less chance for corruption and betrayals.

I understand that I am on the very edge of something that I need to step into without fear. That will be a step blindly for me, probably the one thing I fear most in life. That is my wall isn't it? Give up everything meaningful to me, to acquire what may be the truth I have sought after all my life.